Wikipedia incel article

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The English Wikipedia incel article is a piece on the world's third largest online encyclopedia covering the topic of everyone who cannot get laid. It is the highest-profile virgin-shaming article on the World Wide Web, beating even Encyclopedia Dramatica's incel article in terms of sensationalism. It is typically the first result from DuckDuckGo-searching the word 'incel' in Anglo-Saxon countries.

"When academic sources are brought forth as possible citations [the effective owner of the page] calls them 'fringe' and 'undue weight.' Then she and her programmer buddies explain that the article is negative because that's what the 'reliable sources' say."[1]

See the tone shifting and removal of good sources comparing the second and last link?


The first English Wikipedia article on Incel came about half-a-decade after the very beginnings of the self-identified community back in the late 90s. Wikipedia debuted on Jan. 15, 2001 and the Incel page was made on July 29, 2004.[2] Using, you can see that the idea of Incel was presented as a neutral term as well as gender-neutral. It was nicely unbiased. For the next decade, incel people could find IncelSupport through Wikipedia and see that it was a place for anyone. Here is an example from 2006: "Yes, hickoryridge, Cernan posted a link to this site on Wikipedia! He's doing a great job, isn't he?"[3]

The incel article was deleted on 13 August 2015, and then again on 8 October 2015, and then finally on 29 December 2015, at which pointed it was also protected against re-creation. After the 2018 Toronto van attack, an English Wikipedia admin, "GorillaWarfare", a public figure who has appeared many times in the media to represent Wikipedia or Wikipedia drama, and is referenced on the news as having served on "Wikipedias Supreme Court", re-created the article on 24 April 2018 after it was deleted and salted. She was able to override the protection because of her administrator status. She wrote most of its content from scratch over the course of 5 months. This was after they couldn't change the 'involuntary celibacy' article enough as the Wikipedia admin's edits on that article were breaking wiki rules so it was moved to 'Incel' so they could break less rules. However, the incel page seems to break a rule just from the name of the page alone, specifically, WPNID which says to avoid neologisms if longer terms can suffice.

One of the biggest fights on Wikipedia around the time of Angela Nagle's (the only real academic authority on incel people pre-Minassian) BBC appearance was whether or not to keep the Wikipedia incel article as describing a real life circumstance, or change it to describe 4chan culture (instead of just having a fucking article on 4chan culture and not politically denying that involuntary celibacy is a thing). On Wikipedia, the anti-science folks won and incel was re-labelled as a subculture causing Wikipedia to purge and revert citations about inceldom from the journal of sex research and other peer reviewed articles which took the concept of involuntary celibacy seriously from an academic perspective. However, people generally revert citations from Nagles work or appearances on the Wikipedia incel article because they cant have anyone sympathetic cited, only criticism. This is not a new phenomona on Wikipedia, as there seems to have always been a small cadre of people POV pushing by deleting Wikipedia articles that would more likely protect an, "involuntary celibacy page", (not "incel" page) from deletion. Past strange page deletions included Wikipedia deleting old articles on Brian Gilmartin, Love-shyness, and Denise Donnelly.

GorillaWarfare owns (not just stewards) the incel Wikipedia page as of mid 2018 against (nominal) Wikipedia conduct policy, writing most of the article as of mid-2018 and constantly reverting unorganized registered users on technicalities about sources like the Donnelly Study, but then allowing those sources to be used later as long as it was introduced by editors she liked. Her actions were alerted to Wikipedia's Arbcom team. After the person went to ANI as told to complain about individuals involved, the person was accused of harassment. [1]. Gorilla had served as a member on Arbcom before, as well as the Wikipedia ANI board, which revealed that the only Wikipedia admins or high-profile editors who hadn't given up on the incel article were explicitly and proudly incelphobic, including former senior designer of the Wikimedia foundation Jorm and fellow Wikipedia admin Gamaliel who posted this activist banner on Gorilla's talk page after the Arbcom submission was rejected for review. diff


The degree to which 'incelphobics' are open about their internal Wikipedia activism, shows an internal bias and perhaps an internal coordination (maybe not involving Gorilla) to keep the article non-NPOV that extends to the very top of Wikipedia, empowering incelphobic wiki editors to be open about their article bias. Which would be remarkable given the encyclopedia has over 5 million articles. But nonetheless it is a hot-topic now.

Wikipedia editor DaveDial threatened a topic ban on gender for editor thylacoop5 despite not having admin privileges after thylacoop5 made the following comment: "The following editors: Dave Dial, Jorm, and GorillaWarfare have recently suggested that this article should primarily focus on misogyny and violence and exclude other topics; with the rationale that this is where media coverage primarily focuses. By analogy, Islamism in the media primarily focuses on terrorism by groups such as ISIS/AL-Qaeda. Yet the islamism article has 14 subsections that do not mention militancy. Doesn't that show that there is a precedence on Wikipedia of broadening the focus?".[4]

Post-Minassian Attack Article Content Bias/Tone[edit]

Against Wikipedia conduct policy, Wikipedia admins changed the tone of an entire article due to a news event.

The mention of the SPLC article in the intro tries to make all incel communities seem like moral equivalents to the taliban or the KKK, even communities like Incelswithouthate,, Incel Support, and This is political smearing of incel people. The intro also makes it seem like most self-identified incel people encourage violence, when this is a vocal minority of users on 4chan related sites. There is a negative feedback loop where authors for incel pieces come to Wikipedia first, get the notion that all communities advocate violence, write another piece, which Wikipedia then cites again as another citation of evidence of incel people advocating violence. This is also why incelphobics jumped so hard at the chance to re-write the involutary celibacy article, stuff the entire article with news against Wikipedia policy, then move the page when they couldn't change it enough.

Much of this problem with the page lies in the faulty assumption that "incel" is a subculture rather than a life circumstance. Because if it's a subculture, then it can only be defined in its relation to 4chan culture and the PSL scene, when it's usage expands beyond 4chan culture and the PSL scene.

The article stated for all of 2018 that, "Self-identified incel people are mostly white", a claim many incel people find dubious given internal demographic research done by forums has shown their forums are almost or at least half non-white. As well as a peer reviewed study that concluded that incel forums were highly ethnically heterogenous. The mods of are pretty much all non-white for the record. This has since been somewhat corrected.

Wikipedia editor Wopr wrote on the village pump complaining about bias in Wikipedia articles against Wikipedia policy writing, including the incel article in his complaints:

Or take, for example, the article on "incel". Again, the lede is excessively long, and a full-on no-holds-barred assault on these people. The lede feels the need to mention, among other minutia, that these people are "mostly white, male and heterosexual"...Specifically mentioning "white, male and heterosexual" in the lede is quite clearly pushing a certain socio-political agenda. Anybody who denies this is either delusional or deliberately lying. Anybody who is even slightly intellectually honest will admit that there is a political message being shoved in there...


The article also implicitly softboy-shames.

Admin Conflict[edit]

In late 2018, Wikipedia admin Acroterion challenged GorillaWarfare on the neutrality of the article in the talk section of the article.


See also[edit]

External links[edit]

  • A big shitfest on Wikipedia on whether of not involuntary celibacy is a thing [2]
  • Incel, Wikipedia