|Founders:||Diego J. Galante,|
|Frontend Admins:||Diego J. Galante (2017-2021, resigned)|
Lamarcus Small (2017-now)
|Server Admins:||Diego J. Galante (2017-2021, resigned)|
Lamarcus Small (2017-now)
|Writers:||Teenagers and young adult men|
|Companies used:||Cloudflare, ISNIC, Xenforo|
|Predecessors:||r/truecels, r/incels, incels.org|
|Prior URLs:||incels.me, incels.co|
incels.is (formerly r/incels, incels.org, incels.me, and incels.co) is a public, incel chat website[note 1] founded in late 2017. The forum developed a negative reputation for allowing posts condoning pedophilia, while at the same time swiftly banning users for advocating feminism. The users are generally male supremacist and share an appreciation of Japanese children's cartoons. A majority of forum users polled in 2021 reported being adult age (84%) and particularly sexually attracted to minors (56%).
The site was founded by an Elliot Rodger fan named Diego J. Galante, the son of a prominent, Uruguayan law academic. During December 2021, Diego and his co-founder Lamarcus Small pretended to hand incels.is off to two alleged neo-nazis, with Lamarcus staying and Diego perhaps leaving entirely. WBUR and other news organizations reported in the months that followed that a criminal investigation was launched against Diego and a suicide encouragement forum him and Lamarcus founded.[note 2] On May 1st 2022, Lamarcus stopped pretending to have left incels.is as the main server and frontend administrator.
Incels.is is unique because of users who try to passively goad each other into committing mass murder, often behind a veil of irony.[note 3] Those associated with the forum notably believe their sexlessness is due to women having choices and they strongly believe that this is proven by peer-reviewed scientific literature. A significant amount of incels.is users have promoted rape as a "solution" to inceldom, and/or publicly expressed a desire to legalize rape. Despite allegedly having thousands of registered users, the CCDH found that over three quarters of the millions of incels.is posts are authored by only around 400 accounts.
In response to the banning, Diego J. Galante aka SergeantIncel, a new user of r/incels and the founder of r/incelbrotherhood, moved many r/incels users to incels.org, his first self-hosted incel forum.[note 5]
Diego was in direct contact with the last main administrator of r/incels, azavii, at this time and made him moderator on his first domain incels.org. At least two other incel forum competitors born from r/incels ruins emerged around at this time: incel.life and incels.net.
Diego spammed the incels.org URL on r/incels and other subreddits, and incels.org quickly gained around 271 initial members on its first day of November 8th, 2017. Almost immediately afterward, Incels.org was stripped from Diego by the relevant domain registrar, and the owner of a rival forum: Vcelguy found a way to snag it on the open market afterward.
Vcelguy thought that Diego was too new to r/incels and saw him as an untrustworthy actor as a result. Vcelguy had incels.org redirect to incels.net starting in mid-December of 2017, where it still redirects to this day. During 2017, Vcelguy also set up a pinned thread exposing Serge's legal name and face. (His identity was kind of public info even back then)
Further domain name changes
Diego received an email from an African American linux server administrator named Lamarcus (alias Master) offering to help with the quickly increasing technical difficulties of running an activist targeted site. Diego then brought on Lamarcus as the second in command. Diego and Lamarcus were now using the domain incels.me. Both Diego and Lamarcus were angry that Vcelguy had taken the incels.org domain after they tried to use it, repeatedly accusing Vcelguy of "legal theft", and trying to "spark an incel civil war". Later, Diego and Lamarcus' accusations toward Vcelguy became less plausible, such as suggesting Vcelguy's forum had crypto mining software running on it when it did not.
During 13 days, and as of November 20th 2017, incels.me had amassed 1,673 registrations and 143 active users (funnily enough, about the same amount of active users it currently has in 2022).
Later, incels.me had it's domain name stripped from them by the .me domain registry, due to a lack of a good faith attempt by the incels.me admins to remove advocacy of violent crime, according to the domain registry itself.[note 6][note 7]
During the .me domain debacle, Incels.me admins responded with their own press release stating they had tried their best to remove such posts, but there was not much evidence they made any significant effort. With r/incels banned from Reddit for violence promotion, the "Master" insinuated in a podcast he felt little reason to conform to Reddit's non-violence rules while already on a separate site.[note 8]
With the incels.me domain gone, admins then changed their domain name to incels.is, then to incels.co for SEO reasons. Around the time a domain registrar named Epik terminated service of their sanctionedsuicide.com domain, a separate domain registrar named Njalla took incels.co offline permanently. Incels.co admins proceeded to change the forum domain name back to incels.is.
After 2019, and after incels.is got involved in "countering extremism" organizations, incels.is has been known to hide violence advocacy in places not visible to the public, such as in user signatures or private subforums.
incels.is partners with US Department of Homeland Security funded NGO: Light upon Light
In 2019, the incels.is founder, Diego, started mingling with Light Upon Light associated projects. Light Upon Light is a US based NGO which purports to raise money, including from the US Department of Homeland Security, to utilize former radicals in a quest to rid the world of all hate and extremism.
Diego's associations with Light Upon Light projects had turned into a full-blown, Shapeshifter position in Light Upon Light's organization during the beginning of 2021. This was shown on Light Upon Light's shapeshifter page the first half of 2021, showing, Diego as "Alexander Ash", and with his avatar advertising his incels.co fourm.
With the approval of Diego, multiple forum accounts[note 9] were involved with Light Upon Light. During this time, the violent posts (but not necessarily the toxicity, radical defeatism, male bullying, or extreme traditionalist politics) became less frequent.
During 2021, Diego and various incels.is users would dump out-of-place content, often in raw, uncommented form, including: a Document Journal article featuring Jesse Morton, an unlisted YouTube video of Diego being interviewed by Light Upon Light, user polls, and cash prize offers for users taking polls. Diego also pinned blog posts on the forum from his site incel.blog, which features a piece written by a former Task Force 134 member and former ICSVE research assistant Ken Reidy and a piece by a Light Upon Light podcaster: Naama Kates. These blog posts were unpopular with the incels.is userbase and 'SergeantIncel' locked the blog threads after he posted them. All of Diego's posts on incels.blog were deleted after the NYTimes exposed his identity.
During 2020-2021, incels.co threads critical of Light Upon Light or associated individuals were often deleted by administrators, usually because the users were complaining about the forum working with Light Upon Light. Users complained even to the point of self-banning from the forum in droves at the height of the drama (March 2021).
In mid-2021 Diego was stripped of his Light Upon Light shapeshifter position, with no public explanation, a few months before a New York Times expose of Diego.
After Diego allegedly left and Fatlink came into power in late 2021, Fatlink signaled an alleged end to the association with Light Upon Light, by insulting people associated with Light Upon Light. However, at least one moderator as of 2022 still seems sympathetic to Light Upon Light associated individuals.
Suicide encouragement and death cult accusations
Alleged incels.is user suicides
According to deleted (but publicly archived) incels.is threads, a highly active incels.is user named 'thebuddhacel' died on SanctionedSuicide.
Another incels.is user named IengZengCel (now shows as "Deleted User"), allegedly died using a bizarre chemical suicide method commonly advertised on incels.is and SanctionedSuicide (sodium nitrite ingestion).
Another incels.is user self-nicknamed Mr. Kittycel allgedly died by sodium nitrite ingestion.
Forum moderator admits to SanctionedSuicide crossover
In late 2021, users of incels.is wrote a letter to the head of US federal law enforcement saying the were "familiar with many members" of the SanctionedSuicide site, which primarily facilitated suicide encouragement.
Former incels.is user Todd Thundercock made a YouTube video called. Incels.is is a honeypot with an agenda to make you want to die. LEAVE. Naama Kates is cool, though., calling incels.is a death cult. In it, he said Diego once relayed incels.is was part of a "trifecta" of forums that funnel people to SanctionedSuicide. Incel forum users VanSavage and Zesto made similar accusations, albeit interspering their accusations with less credible claims.
Diocel and other forum users encouraging suicide and directing users to SanctionedSuicide
incels.me/co/is and looksmax.me accounts were cross-pollinated with SanctionedSuicide accounts. Accounts from incels.is would link suicide instructions, including Sodium Nitrite instructions, to incels.is forum users, in order to encourage people on incels.is and looksmax.org to kill themselves. Diocel (known on some forums as 'Jokie') seems to have been the most prolific user who did this, but others who also did this included nystagmuscel, Snowstormhigh, genetically_over, simply_over, Leblid, theREALbleachcel, RoBobaFett999, and jefferson, among others.
After a New York Times expose on Diego, Lamarcus, and SanctionedSuicide, Diocel seemed distraught and requested in public for his account and posts to be deleted from incels.is. In early 2022, 50,000+ posts of his were deleted by an admin and he kept posting.
Pedophilia and ephebophilia
The userbase has always included countless proud, open, self-admitted pedophiles and ephebophiles, who use the forum to propagandize and call critics, "agecucks".
A current moderator of incels.is named Robtical is an advocate for rewarding men who rape minors. He was previously part of the staff of Nathan Larson's forum, where his avatar was a minor in a trash can.
A majority of the 2022 userbase thought sexualization of minors was important for their incel forum, calling critics of this opinion, "cucks". After receiving criticism for allowing so many MAPs on the forum, the moderators enacted a rule banning public sexualization of minors. After backlash from the users, the rule was revised to only include no public sexualization of pre-pubescent minors by the adult users.
In the months that follow, users of incels.is begin to take full advantage of this rule change allow the sexualization of minors, and started calling for legalization of teen/adult sex, and started making fun of anti-ephebophiles..
Incels.is staff approves of user harassing the family of a 17-year old who died by murder
Incels.is staff encouraged users taking advantage of this new rule to sexualize minors.
For example, on June 20th, 2022, an incels.is user wrote an open letter to the family of a teen girl named Riley Whitelaw, who was murdered by a 28 year old man. In the open letter he details his rape fantasy of their dead child. In response to the story, all the users cheer. An incels.is staff member then calls the harassment "cool".
That same day, two users state that 17 year old Riley should have been raped, and user TheDarkEnigma says that he would have permanently crippled Riley for life if given the chance.
On September 23rd 2022, almost 6 years after the forum was founded, the rule about sexualization of minors was changed to Do not sexualize minors in any way, shape, or form.. This was the same day the Center for Countering Digital Hate came out with a report publicizing the full names of the incels.is operators and mentioning that incels.is was, at the time they authored the report, creating an allowance in their rules for the public sexualization of teenage minors.
Incels.is mods immediately began warring over the new rule, with 2 mods: Robtical aka 'OrdinaryUser' (a former Nathan Larson forum administrator) and ThePhrophetMuscle arguing against the new rule. Screens posted on blackpill.club suggest Robtical and other incles.is mods are waiting for things to "calm down" before reinstating relevant banned users.
Minor aged users
After his name was exposed in a news story, one of the incels.is founders proposed removing members under the age of 18. Teenagers have been allowed and present on the forum since founding. Despite the proposal, no meaningful action was taken to ban or remove users under 18 years old.
Publicized forum users or lurkers
Anwar Said Driouich
A man in the UK named Anwar Said Driouich, upset about his lack of success with women, was caught making bombs by UK police. It was found through his computer that a day before his arrest he had accessed incels.is and read a thread entitled “Could be another ER coming up soon”. This was understood to have been a reference to Rodgers’ attack.
Pedro Francisco Smith ('Anondump')
Incels.me user Anondump, once got in the news for robbing a bank. The news reports contained Anondump's full real name: Pedro Francisco Smith. This same Pedro Francisco Smith published a video with the name, “Men are entitled to sex”. The face in this video matches with mugshots of Pedro Francisco Smith, as well as the selfie posted by anondump on incels.me. In the video, he admitted to being Anondump explicitly, admitted to running blackpill.online, stated he was an, "incel", stated he supported rape, wanted patriarchy "restored" and women, "stripped of their rights". He made a political endorsement for Nathan Larson in the video. He also expressed he was not concerned with his private/personal details being public because he had, "nothing to lose".
At some point, Pedro was banned from incels.me.
According to Pedro, the police visited a residency he was absent from and Pedro pondered if he'd be extradited to his former residency. According to an incel forum criticism board, this occurred after he had talked about a bombing and had bought chemicals.
Diego J. Galante ('Serge') and Lamarcus Small ('Master/Marquis')
In late 2021, Gabriel Dance and Megan Twohey authored a 33-page, front page New York Times article called, "Where the Despairing Learn Ways to Die", which identified the founder of incels.is, "Sergeantincel", as Diego Joaquín Galante. The same article exposed the backend administrator, security guy, part-time financier, and current overall operator, "Master/Marquis", as Lamarcus Small. The journalists stated that the identities and names were discovered using domain registrar leak data spanning years. The data included phone numbers, credit card info, payment invoices and troves of personal data. Journalists cold-called both founders and publicly published the call in a podcast. Lamarcus and Diego's voices in the publicized phone call are the same voices contained in many podcasts featuring them, and incel forum users recognized their voices as 'Master'/'Serge' after the call was publicly published as well.
The journalists found Diego was a 30-year-old son of a prominent academic lawyer in the capitol of Uruguay. Both Galantes are reportedly living together in an elegant apartment building. In early 2021, Sergeantincel implied he would begin intervening on mildly suicidal people on his incel forum on the basis of concern for human life. However, the New York Times reported he was hiding the visibility of user accounts of dead people on his sanctioned-suicide.org board, as well as telling still-living users to hide their contact info from forum lurkers.
After the first NYTimes expose, Diego and Lamarcus' identity, city-location, and background were subsequently republished in dozens of other outlets. After this happened, Lamarcus claimed to hand the incel related sites to a white nationalist named, Rassisten/Infinity, however this most likely was a lie. He likely either was Infinity or shared an account with someone else using that account. 6 months later, Lamarcus announced a 'return' as administrator.
Lamarcus had initially reached out to Diego offering his skills as a linux system administrator. He proceeded to become in charge of purchasing some of the domains according to leaked Epik data, as well as taking turns paying for the server, according to old Reddit posts.
Megan and Gabriel noted Lamarcus claimed he was not behind the SanctionedSuicide site, appeared to deny his mother's identity, and tried to pin the sites on his brother. However, the journalists concluded in the piece Lamarcus was indeed behind the sites, and was attempting more misdirection. The article tied Diego and Lamarcus' suicide facilitation forum to over 500 possible deaths, with 46 deaths individually confirmed by the Times. News outlets reported that Diego and the matter of the first NYTimes story are currently under an indefinite government investigation opened by a prosecutor in Uruguay and under watch by INTERPOL. 7 members of congress petitioned the head of the DOJ to investigate and prosecute both Lamarcus and Diego.
Nathan Larson ('Leucosticte')
Nathan Larson was allowed to post heinous, but legal, content on incels.me during 2018–2019, for a period longer than pretty much any other site would allow. Larson claims Diego J. Galante helped advertise Larson's site Incelocalypse (and "other sites") at one point.
During my own time as a refugee, Serge extended the hand of mercy and comfort by giving me a place to stay, from late May into early December, after my sites had been shut down and I was struggling to bring them back up. He allowed a thread about Incelocalypse's status to be pinned so that refugees from that site could be aware of what was going on. He also quietly extended his hospitality for other sites of mine to be advertised, until there came a point where he saw that since I was working with Zesto on building this site and others, I didn't need him anymore. And so, like the mother hen who nudges her offspring out of the nest for their own good, he sent me on my way as well. "My path now is to build upon Serge's succcsses by achieving the final triumph of the incelosphere, going beyond a more limited and vague whitepill to promote and put into practice a clearly-defined レイプpill. But I would be remiss if at this moment I did not acknowledge our benefactor who gave us solace and a place where we could find companionship and encouragement in our time of need."
—--Nathan Larson (from public forum post)
At some point Diego and Nathan had a falling out, perhaps because of Larson working with the Diego-critic Zesto during 2019. One of Larson's last public messages to Diego was accusing Diego of being a Jew and bringing up gas chambers, while retweeting Diego from his 'AlexanderAsh' account.
During December 2020, Larson was arrested in Denver, Colorado after a cross-agency investigation allegedly found evidence that he was digitally grooming and attempting to transport a 12-year-old girl across state lines with the alleged ultimate view of engaging in sexual intercourse with the girl in question.
After the arrest, the @incelsco Twitter account noted Nathan was banned from their forum but explained he was allowed on the forum despite not being an incel, because of being, in their words, "blackpilled".
According to a public post by what seems to be a close friend of Larson, Nathan Larson may have died on Sunday, September 18th 2022, while imprisoned. In this post, his friend linked what he claims is Larson's "manifesto", a written document mailed by Larson to him, dated March 2022. In the document, Larson states he tried to get arrested.[note 10] Video submitted to Youtube by Fresno police suggest that Larson initially entered incarceration in good health. In this video, Larson is seen as walking normally and without help across a large distance.
Nathan possibly died at Promise Hospital of Phoenix in Mesa, AZ, after being transferred by Judge Jennifer Thurston to FCI Stafford federal prison from the intensive care unit at Fresno Community Hospital, a hospital he was at since June 12th, 2022. Thurston seemed to imply that the care he received at Fresno Community Hospital was "inadequate", but it's unknown why he was transferred, or even why he got 'emaciated', as a court document implies, in the first place (no documents mentions he had COVID). Due to his unexplained death, Larson, who is also a sick piece of garbage, was not convicted on any of his latest charges. Larson's death is anecdotal.
Tres Genco ('Oedipus')
A man named Tres Genco was arrested for allegedly planning to shoot up women in a sorority. A DOJ report said that Tres was aiming to kill 3,000 people and wanted to attend military training.
Users of incels.is publicly connected the identity of Tres Genco to a former user of incels.is named “Oedipus”, whose language in an old incels.is post (here) matches an unnamed forum quote in the DOJ report on Tres Genco here.
FrailPaleStaleMale ('The Enforcer')
"FrailPaleStaleMale", "Frail", or "Voice from the UK", was an incels.is user from the UK who appeared in the BBC documentary "Inside the Secret World of Incels". He was a guest and recurring topic on Naama Kates' podcast. He is publicly rumored to have kidnapped someone at some point, and self-described as a "hopeless addict druggiecel".
Frail is a friend of Lamarcus. For example, he once called Lamarcus when Lamarcus wound in up in hospital from a type 2 diabetes coma.
During 2022, Lamarcus Small made him a forum moderator of incels.is. Frail's moderator pseudonym on incels.is is, "The Enforcer".
Catfishman was an r/incels and incels.me user who also appeared in the the BBC3 documentary on 2019 incel forum users. "Catfishman's" name is self-descriptive. He was known for catfishing women on dates, shaming the women, all while videotaping the encounters, before uploading them to Bitchute.com. He has a criminal record involving domestic violence and cyberstalking.
Catfishman was banned from incels.is shortly before the airing of the BBC3 documentary.
Common themes of the forum
- “Worshipping” the serial killer Elliot Rodger
- Making fun of non-masculine men
- Banning all women and admitted LGBTQ people
- Telling each other to rape women
- Telling each other to kill themselves
- Telling each other to go on spree killings
- Denying the existence of women with vaginismus, medical conditions etc., while allowing male standardcels in their chat as long as they are “blackpillers”
On February 22, 2018, a user by the name of Chewbacca posted a ban request in the inceldom discussion thread. In it, Chewbacca stated that she was female this whole time and got away with posting. Her picture, which was shown, fooled many people into thinking she was an ugly man.
The Ban Appeal section of the site is enjoyed by many users as a source of drama or curious encounters between recently banned users and moderators. The mod who issued the last warning which triggered a permanent ban is the one who has the call on whether to give a second chance to the user in question or not. There is a megathread in the Meta section where regular users can discuss the ban of others.
Numerous cliques have formed on incels.is in the past including Ritalin Defense Force.
Media barrage of 2018
After the Alek Minassian van attack in Toronto, the mainstream media went on a campaign against incel forums, and specifically against incels.is. Despite the fact that Alek Minassian only referenced 4chan, there is no evidence he used incels.is, and the admins have stated that to their knowledge he did not use the site.
In 2020, the admin of incels.net, Vcelguy, had accused incels.co (now incels.is) of illegally DDoSing their forum. Incels.net also placed layer 7 DDoS CAPTCHA protection on and off on his forum for years.
Later, Alexander's forum incels.is expressed discontent with material being linked from similarly minded members of masculinist splinter forums, which “Serge” probably hopes will be painted as more radical than his, when they are ideologically the same as incels.is. Members of NCU.su and even his own forum members began accusing Serge of duplicity in his on/off forum actions, and said this through countless incels.is forum threads in mid-2021. This continued for almost three days, until someone linked a rival, but similar, site, blackpill.club, multiple times on his site during the height of the drama. After Sergeantincel and others on incels.is expressed great dissatisfaction with the unfolding events, blackpill.club, a primary incels.is competitor was hit with a massive, illegal Layer 7 DDoS which they solved with forcing CAPTCHAs on the forum. Members of the blackpill.club forum thought Sergeantincel or others high up in incels.is were directly involved in DDoSs attack on blackpill.club in 2020 and 2021, and signaled they saved the logs however, direct evidence at that point was still mostly circumstantial.
Regardless, Sergeantincel never pushed back against the series of DDoS attacks if it was not him, not lending much credence to his free speech posturing, never mind the fact he bans leftists, all sexually successful people who make it known, women, and any group that would provide counter-narratives to defeatism in his forum.
Hidden mods and admins
The forum has hidden moderators and administrators. This began after the New York Times expose of the site founders, when they took down their uncurated, automatically populated online user list on the footer of the main page of the site and replaced it with a curated, autopopulated list of online staff on the top, right-hand corner of the site. Other incel website followed suit.
The presence of hidden staff on incels.is was made evident when an invisible admin deleted the main frontend administrators account in early 2022 during a staff dispute.
During late 2021 and early 2022, all incels.is admins and mods prior to December 2021 claim to have left or banned. It's not known the extent to which this is true. In May 2022, Lamarcus stated on his forum that he returned as server and frontend administrator.
The media has occasionally been criticized for directing people to extremist incel forums by drawing more attention to them. However, for most journalists, the forum provided a lot of material with which to drive a small amount of internet obsessives crazy with false notions of impending societal collapse.
Unlike most non-niche incel forums, historical and modern, incels.is bans all women and LGBTQ people.
Users of incels.is have also been known to cyberbully various, young reddit.com/r/amiugly posters.
- It’s technically a forum but the replies are so short and low quality it is essentially a chatroom full of “post-maxxers” and teenagers. For example, countless threads are often comprised of replies that are just 1-2 words long.
- one of which was reportedly comprised primarily by mentally ill young adults https://nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/09/us/where-the-despairing-log-on.html
- Users told each other to commit mass murder, as of 2018-2020, by using the phrase, “Go ER”, over and over. “Go ER”, references Elliot Rodger, and those who posted it intended it to mean "be like the serial killer Elliot Rodger and shoot random people out of anger" https://www.pubpoli.com/posts/2020/9/17/understanding-and-addressing-the-incel-rebellion
- "Reddit has banned […] men who blame women for their involuntary celibacy and sometimes advocate rape, [/r/incels] as part of a new crackdown on forums that glorify and incite violence." -- New York Times
- It is a common misconception that "Sergeantincel" or "Master" were mods or admins of r/incels, they weren't
- The admins seemed to have no prior difficulty in swiftly removing posts involving feminism, female posters, or LGBTQ politics though.
- "Upon inspecting incels.me forum for policy violations on October 15th, the .ME Registry determined that the content that encouraged acts of violence and hate speech still appeared on the forum. Having witnessed this disregard of not only .ME Registry’s policies and suspension warnings, but also of incels.me forum’s policies the domain registrant formulated themselves, the .ME Registry suspended the domain and decided that it would remain suspended" ---.me domain registrar https://mashable.com/article/incels-me-domain-suspended-by-registry/
- Users moving back to large incel forums on Reddit was still possible at this time (2018).
- Including the forum account Unsaveable, and possibly the account Diocel
- in the manifesto publicly posted by fukurou on September 24th 2022, Larson states he "tried and succeeded to get arrested by authorities, including coordinating with the girl to bring about the highest likelihood of arrest, including choosing a method of transportation that would be the most easily trackable by authorities" paraphrased. In this publicly available manifesto posted by Fukurou to incels.is in September 2022, Nathan also lists 2022 incels.is moderator Robtical as a general "supporter". It is unknown what Nathan means by "supporter"
- https://archive.fo/kZTB2 https://archive.fo/1hHbx
- List of incel forum users or vloggers investigated by government
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