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The average height for a White American, aged 20-39, is 5'10.5" (178 cm).

However, in upper-class areas, the average height should be higher.

It is also observed that in clubs, the average height is high due to competition.

Height and attractiveness[edit]

According to the ACTIONS of women, they prefer a man 6'2" or above.

Self-reported surveys are meaningless. Best height is 5'11" according to this survey: https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/07/11/ideal-height-56-woman-511-man/

And according to the survey in the following image:

However this survey was based on a self-reports, not actual behavior of women. Surveys usually find that women choose a shorter height than they actually prefer.

There is another self-report study which concluded that the "ideal" height is 5'9" - 5'11".

In a double-blind study by Graziano et al., it was found that, in person, using a sample of women of normal size, they were on average most attracted to men who were of medium height (5'9"- 5'11") and less attracted to both men of shorter height (5'5"- 5'7") and men of tallest height (6'2"- 6'4").[74]

The above study is flawed. The study involved sheets of paper with photos of nine male faces (all faces were rated average by previous female raters) along with height listings. Female subjects ranked each sheet of paper (which includes a facial photo and a height listing) for attractiveness, with men of medium height (5'9" - 5'11") being rated as the most attractive.

Also male subjects have done the same thing, except that they rated for traits rather than attractiveness, and they got no difference in results between each height.

Both the female ratings of attractiveness and the male ratings of traits contradict all of the other studies involving height. These other studies all suggests that taller men are desired more, get more respect and are paid more than men of medium height. This contradiction could be explained by the study's methodology. It only involved nine different faces. And it's not an actual real-life study. Unconscious effects involving a tall stature in real-life could result in different judgments of height pertaining to attractiveness and other traits.

e.g. salary correlates more with height than with race: https://redpilltalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37965

Also women prefer taller men when they're ovulating or short-term relationships. This is a visual study which does not involve women picking numbers like the two studies above.

Human mate preferences are related to many morphological traits, such as female waist-to-hip ratio (WHR), body mass index (BMI), male height or facial symmetry. People also vary in preferences for sexual dimorphism in stature (SDS = male height/female height) between themselves and a potential partner. Here, we demonstrate that women adjust their preference for SDS not only in relation to their own height but also in relation to (1) the phase of menstrual cycle during which their preferences were studied and (2) the sexual strategy (short- versus long-term) they were asked to choose. Taller males (larger SDS) were preferred more often when women were in the follicular (i.e. fertile) phase of their menstrual cycle and when the partners were chosen for short-term relationships. These effects were independent of woman’s height. The results show that women in a potentially fertile phase of their menstrual cycle and when choosing a partner who might be less likely to invest in children select genes of taller males.

Many of you would say that "most of the slayers I have seen" are only around average height. This is true because there aren't a lot of people taller than 6'3" and that attractiveness has more to do with face than height.

Yes shorter men may be stronger than taller men if they have the muscle mass. But attractiveness isn't purely about strength, but genetic quality. Height is advantageous regardless of strength. e.g. Sprinting ability increases if you're taller due to bigger stride length. Men who run the 200 meter or 1500 meter sprints are taller on average. The speed advantage due to height may be minor, but if you're getting chased down by a lion or being hunted down by an enemy tribe, any minor speed advantage will significantly increase your chance of survival. As long as your peers don't outpace you, you would survive.

Height frauding[edit]

Many people fraud their height. Vitalyzdtv is 5'11" but frauds his height to be 6'0. Jason Statham is 5'8" or 5'9" but a mugshot from a movie, he is 6'4".

It is speculated that Brad Pitt frauds his height as well, according to some pictures of him beside George Clooney. Sometimes he's shorter and sometimes he's taller. Note that Clooney is 5'11".


The type of shoes could add to height.

When you're talking about height requirement do you mean height barefoot or height with shoes on? I'm 5'9 and I feel towered when I wear converse. When I wear taller shoes is different.[1]

Height on campuses[edit]

Many people observed that the average height on their campus is tall. This could be due to the type of shoes they are wearing.

This could also be due to the ethnicity of the campus. White campuses should have a tall average height. Similarly, it also depends on the socioeconomic status. If the university is predominantly composed of upper-class students, then the average height would be tall.

The average male height in some European universities is above 6'6".[citation needed]

See also[edit]

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